EPISODE RELEASED 1st SEPT 2022
HOW CAN OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES BE EXPLAINED? WHAT THEORY OF REALITY COULD ACCOMODATE THE PHENOMENON?
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Today we have the extraordinary topic of the science and physics of Out of Body Experiences to get our head around! Many brain scientists have reduced this common experience to a mix of physiological and brain chemical effects, maintaining that no perceiving consciousness actually leaves the body, rather it is a form of hallucination and distortion of body schema. Not knowing when these experiences will spontaneously occur has made them hard to study in the lab.
However, certain researchers have developed a method for inducing the experience, allowing for deeper study. Following that study some new theories of reality have developed that could include such an experience and even others like Near Death Experience or NDE, and Controlled Remote Viewing which we’re evaluating in this second series.
One such scientist is our guest today physicist Dr. Tom Campbell! He’s an experimental physicist who’s worked for over 20 years developing US missile systems for the Department of Defence, specialising in developing cutting edge technology, large-system simulation, technology development and integration, and complex system vulnerability and risk analysis.
He began researching altered states of consciousness with Bob Monroe at Monroe Laboratories in the early 1970s. He helped design experiments and develop the Binaural Beats technology for creating specific altered states, and became an experienced test subject and trainer too. After many years studying consciousness, and out of body experiences he wrote the book ‘My Big TOE’, as in ‘Theory of Everything’, which describes his model of existence and reality from both the physical and metaphysical points of view.
PART 1: Testing Out of Body Experiences
00:00 Intro
06:00 Balanced left right brain thinking
07:00 Deriving from first principles VS plug and chug
09:00 Out of Body Experience is a bad term, but neutral
13:00 Consciousness is not projected from the body
14:45 Intellectual VS intuitive attitudes
18:00 Consciousness is fundamental
20:00 Reality is information based
21:30 Testing Bob Monroe’s OBE phenomena
32:00 The experiment that confirmed it was real
36:00 Alpha Numeric information is not the same type as image, pattern or metaphor
46:00 The wierdest stories Tom’s encountered
55:00 Non-embodied consciousnesses encounters
56:00 ‘Out of body is a single player virtual reality game… created to learn’
59:00 Tom’s childhood experience with non-physical beings teaching him OB travel
01:05:00 Binaural beats to aid getting out of body explained
01:08:00 Brain wave entrainment
01:14:00 Issues with Binaural solution giving intense experiences
01:20:00 Theta brainwave is the state you need to be in to explore your consciousness
PART 2: The physics of Tom’s ‘My Big T.O.E’ (Theory of Everything)
01:25:00 Consciousness evolves by lowering entropy, finding more order and structure
01:29:00 Splitting to create patterns of meaning and structure
01:30:00 Time is like an evolutionary technology
01:32:00 Separating into other free-willed consciousnesses to interact with and collaborate with
01:37:00 Individuated consciousnesses are subsets of a larger unit of consciousness
01:39:00 Cooperation and collaboration lower disorder
01:41:00 Virtual reality created so choices of entities have actual consequences
01:44:00 The rule set must have been tweaked many times to evolve a universe fine tuned for life
01:46:00 Avatars have consequences for their decisions, lowering entropy faster
01:50:00 The server has to be non-physical from the avatar’s point of view
01:54:30 Testing the simulation hypothesis via the observer problem of quantum physics
02:00:00 There are 3 possible sources of information we have about reality
02:11:00 We cannot get behind consciousness to the source of the information
02:13:00 Virtual realities within virtual realities, aren’t efficient they’re fragile
02:14:00 Why Tom doesn’t write about the many virtual realities he’s visited
02:17:00 Tom’s response to some of the biggest problems in physics (action at a distance, maximum speed, chaos theory, quantum mechanics
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References:
-MBT events (workshops and binaural beats)