EPISODE RELEASED 15th NOV 2023
HOW DOES BREATHWORK INTERACT WITH OUR NERVOUS SYSTEM, ACCESS MEMORIES AND HELP INTEGRATE TRAUMATIC MEMORIES? HOW DOES IT GET RESULTS TREATING AUTO-IMMUNE DISEASE, ADDICTION, AGROPHOBIA, PTSD AND DEPRESSION? HOW CAN IT HELP SLEEP, DETOXIFICATION, DIGESTION, IMMUNITY AND TAKING CONTROL OF NEGATIVE THOUGHT PATTERNS?
In this episode we have the hugely popular practice of Breathwork to look into. After millennia of it being used in bodily practices like martial arts and yoga, conscious breathing was launched into our modern scientific world view by the work of psychologist Stan Grof, who developed Holotropic Breathing in the 1960’s at Harvard, see our Transpersonal Psychology episode for more on that; Breathwork continued to gain in popularity following the focus on the lungs and breathing in near regulation proposed by Dr. Stephen Porges in his Polyvagal Theory, see our devoted episode with Dr. Porges for detail on that; And gained further in popularity with Dr. Pete Levine’s development of Somatic Experiencing, who I am delighted to announce will be coming on the show in the next series, so look out for that.
So having been present for some time in the trauma community, in the last few years the practice has exploded onto the wellbeing scene as well because of all its benefits both physiologically and psychologically.
So who better to talk to about this than expert in a wide range of Breathwork and body-based therapies, Rebecca Dennis. She facilitates workshops, events and retreats alongside her public speaking and individual sessions. She is a gifted speaker and coach, specialising in breathwork, trauma release, somatic modalities, polyvagal theory and nervous system regulation.
Part of her wide popularity is due to her having written three successful books on the topic, the latest being a new edition of Let it Go, “Let It Go and Breathe – A Practical Guide To Breathwork” which has been featured in Amazon and Sunday Times Best Sellers, and which we’ll be discussing today. She has also been showcased on BBC radio presenter Fearne Cotton’s podcast and wellbeing festival ‘Happy Place’; And she has also collaborated with Google, BBC, Stylist magazine and Sweaty Betty.
What we discuss:
00:00 intro.
05:15 Clearing restrictions without going into the story.
06:00 Newborn’s unconditioned breathing.
09:00 Repressing and controling emotions changes breathing.
12:00 Sympathetic vs parasympathetic nervous system.
17:00 Polyvagal theory meets breathing techniques.
20:50 Long deep breaths don’t necessarily calm you down.
23:50 It’s NOT hyperventilation or hyperoxygenation.
25:00 Releasing tension can feel like hyper stimulation.
29:00 How traumatic memories can be brought up by the breath.
30:40 Trauma is an overused term, better unprocessed experiences.
33:20 Your nervous system remembers unprocessed experiences.
38:00 Rebecca’s crisis that brought her to breathwork.
43:30 Benefits: Depression relief, confidence, sleep, detox, digestion, immunity, taking control of thought patterns.
46:00 “Let it go” book: the foundations of the breath in daily life, tips and methods.
47:40 Breathe yourself calm - lower abdominal breathing.
49:00 Anxiety is higher now than ever.
52:40 What’s the right way to breathe?
56:40 Letting go, releasing and what to let go of.
59:00 Accessing altered states of consciousness without psychedelics.
59:45 Unlocking traumatic memories: Breath, psychedelics, EMDR.
01:01:00 Easing the symptoms without re-living the memories.
01:02:45 Some of her darkest memories have been her greatest teachers.
01:03:45 Inexperienced practitioners unlocking memories without integration.
01:05:00 Increased resilience emotionally, physically and mentally.
01:07:20 Anti bacterial/anti viral Nitrous-oxide produced, improving immunity.
01:08:00 Gut-brain-cardio vascular system axis: anti-inflammatory effects.
01:11:45 Telomere length in meditators (caps on the end of chromosomes) Elizabeth Blackburn 2015 study.
01:13:30 Treating auto-immune disease, addiction, agrophobia, PTSD and depression using breathwork.
01:15:00 Contra indications: Schizophrenia, split-personality, high blood pressure, ME, Chronic fatigue for which breathwork is not appropriate.
01:17:00 New book coming soon.
01:17:50 Her own new training school in Nov 2024.
References:
Rebecca Dennis, ‘Let it Go: Breathe yourself calm’
Polyvagal theory, Dr. Stephen Porges, Episode #5
Deborah Dana, ‘Anchored’: how to befriend your nervous system’
Elissa Epel, Elizabeth Blackburn 2004 ‘Accelerated Telomere shortening in response to life stress’ paper
Elissa Epel, Elizabeth Blackburn 2015 ‘Can meditation slow rate of cellular aging? Cognitive stress, mindfulness, and telomeres’